What Western Supply and Asian Demand Mean for Gold: Brien Lundin
Source: Brian Sylvester of
The Gold Report (9/9/13)
The global rally for gold underway since late June
will soon translate to juniors, says Brien Lundin, CEO of Jefferson
Financial and the publisher/editor of
Gold Newsletter. With so
many undervalued companies in safe North American jurisdictions, he sees
no reason to add sovereign risk to a portfolio. In this interview with
The Gold Report, Lundin
details which companies he follows and why, highlighting one area where
major discoveries are “lined up like pearls on a string.”
The Gold Report: Brien, judging from the tone of the September 2013 issue of
Gold Newsletter, you have renewed excitement for precious metals equities. Why?
Brien Lundin: You’re absolutely right, and it’s all based on
the metals markets. In a typical year, the precious metals markets
bottom out at the end of July to early August, when physical demand from
Asia abates, before kicking back up in late August and September.
This year, gold bottomed out in a final downward thrust at the end of
June and then started building back up. At the same time, a lot of
anecdotal evidence began to reveal an extremely tight supply situation
in the global gold market. Taking all of that together, I was fairly
confident in calling a bottom for gold.
Then, the equities started to respond. However, the situation in
Syria prompted some safe-haven demand in the last few days and the
mining equities stepped back; with safe-haven demand, investors want the
metal, not the paper. But that was just a brief blip. I see an open
road ahead for gold metal and gold equities.
TGR: Gold is moving higher, but without much of an explanation. What is your take on the situation?
BL: The market has had some strong performance, jumping $15,
$25, even $35 in a day. I think those spikes are a result of the
extremely tight demand situation in the gold market. In the spring,
Western speculators and some of the big holders of SPDR Gold Trust
(GLD), the gold exchange-traded fund (ETF), abandoned the market in
anticipation of the imminent end of quantitative easing (QE). We also
had some manipulation, notably on April 12 and April 15, in a blatant
attempt to force the market through sell stops, thus benefiting from
short positions. As a result of these speculative selloffs, the market
was dramatically oversold.
But this rapid price decline sparked tremendous bargain hunting in
Asia. Asian demand more than overcame the selling by Western
speculators. The supplies of gold in the Comex warehouses dropped to
record low levels. We saw gold being transferred from vaults in the West
to the East, causing the rare occurrence of a negative Gold Forward
Offered (GOFO) rate—the interest rate difference between gold holdings
and LIBOR. That has happened only twice in this bull market, at the
beginning of the major bull trend around 2000, and in 2008. Both times
it marked a major turnaround in the metal.
There is a lot of evidence that this unprecedented supply situation
was behind the sharp, brief upward spikes in the gold price. As you add
up these sharp spikes, gold was gradually and then more rapidly coming
off that bottom in late June.
There are number of players in the East who want gold and are willing
to pay higher prices. There also is a shortage of gold in the West.
From a fundamental supply-demand standpoint, we still have some room to
go in this oversold rebound.
TGR: Could you expand on why you believe China will soon be “driving the bus” for the global gold market?
BL: The Shanghai Gold Exchange (SGE), putatively a futures
exchange, is actually a physical delivery mechanism for the Chinese
market. Most of the gold traded on the SGE is actually delivered to
end-users. As of the end of June, SGE reported nearly 1,100 tons of gold
have been traded so far this year. That equates to all of the metal
that had been traded on the SGE in 2012, which itself was a record year.
Put another way, at this rate of consumption, demand on the SGE this
year will equal the entire newly mined global output projected for 2013.
In effect, all of the new gold supply in the world is being consumed by
a single exchange in a single nation.
China will soon exceed India as the largest source of gold demand in
the world. There are demographic factors behind this: a deep cultural
affinity for gold, a growing population and a rapidly growing middle
class. The per-capita use for gold in China is still relatively low but
has a lot of upside. As incomes grow in China, gold demand will grow on a
per-capita basis even as the population grows. The potential for growth
in the demand for gold is almost exponential.
TGR: Who in China is buying gold?
BL: The assumption is that the People’s Bank of China is
buying gold to build up the nation’s gold reserves. China also has
become the world’s largest gold producer, yet none of the gold it
produces ever gets exported.
There is tremendous upside potential in central bank buying of gold
in China, in that China holds a huge amount of U.S. dollars in its
foreign currency reserves. If it were to increase its gold reserves to
the average level of most developed nations, it would quickly absorb all
of the available metal in the global gold market.
TGR: Would the gold price be on an even stronger upward trajectory if India hadn’t taken measures to curb gold buying?
BL: Yes, Indian demand would have been much stronger if its
central bank hadn’t increased the tariff in phases to 10%. Just as
importantly, it imposed an 80/20 rule, which requires that 20% of all of
the gold imported into India must be subsequently exported as finished
goods. Those rules, imposed without explanation of how to follow them,
effectively shut down Indian gold imports from the end of July through
the end of August.
TGR: You recently wrote “Gold has bottomed. The market is set
up for a large sharp rally when and if a short covering stampede is
sparked.” What could those sparks be?
BL: One appears to be the situation in Syria, although we don’t know how that will develop.
A more important and fundamental driver for a short-covering rally
would be the flow of economic data in the U.S., where economic growth
had been showing signs recently of slowing. That slowdown, if it were
confirmed, would eliminate any justification for tapering off the
Federal Reserve’s QE program. A growing consensus that QE will be here
for a while will be the driver that gets the shorts to abandon their
bearish gold positions.
TGR: How does all this translate to gold equities?
BL: The majors had a fairly good rebound and were
outperforming gold until the Syria situation erupted. That touched off
broader equity market selloffs, and the gold stocks were victimized.
Interest is just starting to filter down to the junior resource
stocks. I’m not as negative on that subsector as some of my compatriots.
Greed is the most powerful motivator in the investment markets, and
greed will draw investors to the juniors like iron filings to a magnet
if we see a sustained upward trend in gold and silver.
TGR: What do patterns in the market trends tell you?
BL: This year the gold market has experienced a number of head
fakes, where we thought we had a bottom, then it dropped to a lower
plateau, then dropped again. I think the June 28 bottom will hold. The
fundamental evidence argues for an extremely tight situation in the gold
market, which will keep the prices from dropping to an even lower
plateau.
A lot of evidence, from stochastics to moving averages, is delivering
very strong buy signals. There is anecdotal technical evidence like the
negative GOFO rate and backwardation in the near-term futures. All this
added together points to higher gold prices and a more sustained rally.
Yet, in the broader market, sentiment is still not very positive for
gold. We’re still climbing a wall of worry in regard to sentiment, yet,
for those willing to look, an increasing amount of evidence is pointing
toward higher prices. This is really the perfect situation.
TGR: Your newsletter reports on a host of companies. Can you
tell us about some junior plays with leverage to the gold price,
starting with those that have assets in safer jurisdictions like Canada
and the U.S.?
BL: Safer jurisdiction is an important point. In this market,
there are so many undervalued companies out there that there is no
reason to take on sovereign risk if you don’t have to. As we start this
rebound, it’s important to look for undervalued juniors that have proven
resources or are in production. You can get them at bargain level
prices, and they will be the first to respond.
I expect
Brigus Gold Corp. (BRD:NYSE.MKT; BRD:TSX)
to surprise a lot of people. The company spent a lot of money to
upgrade its facilities and prepare for a higher production rate. Its
capital expenses will therefore drop considerably going forward, while
it benefits from the higher production rate.
TGR: Brigus just recently increased its guidance by 5,000 ounces (5 Koz) through the end of 2013.
BL: And the exploration potential in the Grey Fox deposit gives it a good growth profile.
TGR: Brigus’ new estimate for Grey Fox, issued in July, is up to 736 Koz. How big could Grey Fox get?
BL: It’s hard to tell, but grade is just as important as size.
Its grades are so exceptional that, if Brigus were a junior, it would
be the exploration story of the year. The widths are good, too. Grey Fox
should generate fairly high-margin production given the richness of the
mineralization. It will be significant to the company’s growth profile
because of its size, and significant to its earnings profile because of
the high grades.
TGR: How about some other names?
BL: A number of exploration stories in the U.S. and Canada are undervalued.
Gold Standard Ventures Corp. (GSV:TSX.V; GSV:NYSE)
had great exploration success in 2011 and 2012 in Nevada, then was
forgotten by the market in the downturn. It has a great geological
staff. I think it has narrowed down on the trend and the mineralization.
The company is selling at prediscovery price levels, which I find very
attractive.
TGR: Gold Standard Ventures recently raised $5 million ($5M)
to continue exploring the Railroad project in Nevada. How important was
that?
BL: Its ability to raise money validated its project and its
upside. Any experienced, knowledgeable hand in Nevada exploration will
tell you that Gold Standard Ventures is as close to a sure thing as you
can find in Nevada. It’s the wise guys’ play in Nevada exploration.
Comstock Metals Ltd. (CSL:TSX.V)
has a project in the Yukon that could be an analogue to the Underworld
Resources Inc. discovery at Golden Saddle—the discovery that sparked the
new Yukon gold rush. Recent results were mixed, but did nothing to
extinguish the upside potential because it has a number of targets on
the project. The question is whether the grades will be high enough over
the current widths to justify development in the Yukon. I think it has a
really good shot at it.
TGR: Comstock had some good results in the VG zone of the QV project. Is that the tip of the iceberg?
BL: It’s the tip of the exploration potential. It will take a
bit of drilling to see if there’s an iceberg underneath. Comstock has
good showings from the Shadow and Stewart zones. By no means is the
potential for VG cut off at this point. The company knows where the
mineralization is trending. There is plenty of potential there.
At this point, the company needs another phase of drilling before the
season shuts down to see if it can expand the known gold zones. In my
view, there is a joint venture ahead for Comstock. That would advance
the project without further financial drain.
TGR: What’s happening with
Colorado Resources Ltd. (CXO:TSX.V)?
BL: Similar to GoldQuest Mining Corp. (GQC:TSX.V), Colorado
Resources had some blockbuster results on its first few discovery holes,
but subsequent holes did not live up to those standards. The company
has established the potential for a very large resource at low, but
mineable, grades. Its job now is to figure out the targets and maximize
the grades.
TGR: Do you have another name?
BL: Another overlooked company working in Nevada is
Rye Patch Gold Corp. (RPM:TSX.V; RPMGF:OTCQX).
It had a great plan to develop a number of larger-scale, lower-grade
satellite deposits in Nevada where, due to the infrastructure, resources
can be produced in a hub-and-spoke type of an operation with a central
mill.
The key with Rye Patch is its legal dispute with Coeur Mining Inc.
(CDM:TSX; CDE:NYSE), in which Rye Patch restaked some claims that Coeur
had let lapse. The two companies recently came to an agreement, but the
agreement didn’t meet the market’s hopes of a buyout for Rye Patch.
However, the agreement did give Rye Patch significant cash flow in the
form of a $32M royalty on the disputed claims. This will limit dilution
or will allow the company to explore with no drain on its capital
resources for years to come.
The next step for Rye Patch is to prove the viability of its
resources and exploration targets. It has some walking-around money and a
great management team. For a junior, $32M is extraordinary. Today, the
company isn’t being valued on the basis of that cash flow. Based on cash
flow alone, it is a great speculative investment.
TGR: How does silver fit into what’s happening with gold?
BL: Silver is leveraged to gold. It follows the moves of gold, but it exaggerates those moves both upward and downward.
With gold rising, silver is outperforming gold—a sign of a healthy
bull market. In turn, silver equities are a way for investors to
leverage the moves in silver. Investors get a double-play action by
investing in silver equities.
TGR: Which silver plays are you following?
BL: I like
Endeavour Silver Corp. (EDR:TSX; EXK:NYSE; EJD:FSE) and
Great Panther Silver Ltd. (GPR:TSX; GPL:NYSE.MKT).
Santacruz Silver Mining Ltd. (SCZ:TSX.V; 1SZ:FSE) is a new recommendation of ours.
SilverCrest Mines Inc. (SVL:TSX.V; SVLC:NYSE.MKT) has been a very profitable recommendation for
Gold Newsletter readers.
We also like
Silver Standard Resources Inc. (SSO:TSX; SSRI:NASDAQ) and
Silvercorp Metals Inc. (SVM:TSX; SVM:NYSE).
TGR: Do you want to expand on any of those?
BL: Santacruz made it into production at an incredibly low
cost. It has laid out production plans for its three projects over the
next few years. It’s a great growth story.
SilverCrest has two projects in line, is growing production and has a
great management team. It offers leverage to the rising silver price
and to the company’s growth.
Endeavour Silver has become much more aggressive in its acquisitions
over the last year, taking over and turning around mines that other
companies had trouble with. That aggressive growth strategy will pay
dividends going forward.
Great Panther is a well-managed company with a number of projects
under development. It is cutting costs and optimizing operations.
TGR: All of those projects are in Mexico. Are you following any Mexican gold plays?
BL: Mexico is a great mining region. I really like
Cayden Resources Inc. (CYD:TSX.V; CDKNF:NASDAQ). The company has two primary projects, one in the Guerrero Gold Belt. It sold off a portion of that project—Morelos Sur—to
Goldcorp Inc. (G:TSX; GG:NYSE)—and raised $15.7M in cash to fund another couple of years of exploration without any dilution.
Cayden’s primary exploration project now is El Barque?o, where it has
gotten tremendous trench results over a wide-scale area. It recently
received its drilling permits and will start drilling soon. That
project’s potential, combined with the company’s cash position, its
great management team and its relatively tight share structure, offers a
lot of upside.
TGR: The Guerrero Gold Belt is one of the prime areas for gold exploration in Mexico.
BL: It is. Geophysical anomalies mark every big discovery
along that belt. A number of multimillion-ounce discoveries line up
along that belt like pearls on a string.
Cayden adjoins Goldcorp’s Los Filos project, one of the top two
gold-producing mines in Mexico. That’s why Cayden was able to sell some
of Morelos Sur and can still sell the Las Calles portion of its
property, where it has already demonstrated that the mineralization
extends onto its ground from Goldcorp’s operations.
Cayden also has a large geophysical target called La Magnetita, where
it has only scratched the surface, so far without very positive
results. Given that La Magnetita is the largest geophysical anomaly in
the trend, there is still tremendous blue-sky potential there.
TGR: When will it get to drill that?
BL: It has already completed a first-pass drill program. The
results indicated the right kind of mineralization, but the grades were
low. La Magnetita is such a large target that it will take time and more
drilling to find the deposit or kill off the potential. Right now,
Cayden is focusing on El Barque?o, which offers the near-term potential
to move the company with some good drill results.
TGR: Gold Newsletter is good at getting out in front of certain companies. What are some new names that have had early success?
BL: Columbus Gold Corp. (CGT:TSX.V)
is one. The company has a resource of more than 4 million ounces.
People don’t seem to realize that it has upside potential and appears to
be an economic project. It’s still selling for a pittance, a fraction
of where it should be compared to its peer group.
You also don’t read much about
Lara Exploration Ltd. (LRA:TSX.V).
The company’s focus is on South America, primarily in Brazil and a bit
in Peru. It is a pure prospect generator, with a superb management team
that sticks to the business model. It also has a number of strong, smart
shareholders, so there has not been a lot of volatility in the stock.
Nonetheless, it took a downturn recently when it reported that several
of its projects had been dropped by its joint venture partners. But that
really is just part of the business plan; it’s a numbers game, rolling
through a long list of projects in its pipeline. This is a bargain right
now.
TGR: Tell us what people can expect at the
New Orleans Investment Conference this November.
BL: We have a tremendous lineup, highlighted by Dr. Ron Paul,
the iconic leader of the libertarian movement in the U.S. Dr. Charles
Krauthammer, one of the smartest guys in geopolitical analysis out there
today, and Peter Schiff, one of the smartest guys in the investment
business, will be there. Other big names include
Dr. Marc Faber and Dr. Benjamin Carson.
Dennis Gartman,
who has made some very accurate calls on the commodities markets, and
Dr. Martin Weiss, a leading authority on the bond market and rating
financial institutions, are scheduled. And, of course, we have dozens of
today’s top experts in every investment area.
TGR: Do you have any parting thoughts on the gold and equities space?
BL: Over the past 12 or 13 years we’ve seen a shift to a
secular megatrend in the metals and commodities markets. There have been
some tremendous profit opportunities along the way, including periods
when junior resource stocks multiplied in value very rapidly. We’ve also
seen some severe setbacks.
Right now, we’re seeing an analogue to previous periods where, with
courage and cash, investors could reap tremendous gains as the metals
rebound. All the evidence is pointing toward a new rally in the metals.
It’s time finally for investors to get back into the market.
TGR: Brien, it’s always a pleasure to talk with you.
With a career spanning three decades in the investment markets, Brien Lundin
serves as president and CEO of Jefferson Financial, a highly regarded
publisher of market analyses and producer of investment-oriented events.
Under the Jefferson Financial umbrella, Lundin publishes and edits Gold Newsletter,
a cornerstone of precious metals advisories since 1971. He also hosts the New Orleans Investment Conference, the oldest and most respected investment event of its kind.
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